Gay Marriage

[headgear]

This is sort of related, sort of not, but I hope some of you might find it interesting.

Last night on telly in the UK there was a documentary about two guys who had created their own family using their sperm, donor eggs and surrogate carriers in the US. They had twins just over ten years ago - and at the time this was major major news. The UK didn't have civil partnerships yet, there was a huge furore that it was 'against nature' and so on and so forth.

In the intervening ten years, they've had another three child this way, and the the documentary was looking at their 'weird and wonderful' family. And the best thing about it was that apart from them being extremely successful and financially well off - which is how they've afforded to be ablt to do all this - their family was not weird in any way, it was just wonderful. The kids - apart from being a bit spoilt - were really well adjusted and articulate about their feelings, obviously loved, brought up with good values and had great attitudes.

And for me, the most interesting thing was that they showed an archive interview from ten years ago with the dads and the babies - it was on a breakfast show equivalent to GMA or similar. And the views and questioning of the presenter at the time would be considered absolutely archaic and offensive now. There would be a complete outcry. And they went back last year and were interviewed again with the whole brood - and the presenter ate his words. It was a really good example of how views and attitudes have changed over the last decade for the better.

I don't know if you guys in the US will be able to see it, but there's a link to the programme here which you might be able to watch.

There's a review from the Independent here too, which probably explains it better.

[headgear]

Article from the NY Times: Support for Same-Sex Marriage, State by State

[lookingout86]

Article from the NY Times: Support for Same-Sex Marriage, State by State

Support has increased significantly in every single state--I guess that's something to be happy about!

[browneyes]

A lot of it comes down to being honest with those around you. My dad's views on the topic has DRASTICALLY changed since I came out. I wish I could say the same for my brother's girlfriend. She doesn't believe I should have the right to marry.

[starkicker]

^^^ that's totally true. Before I came out my family had very strong opinions about homosexuality. The number of homophobic comments and jokes were almost unbearable, but when I came out that stopped pretty quickly. My mom isn't about to go march in a PFLAG event, but she's definitely more accepting of homosexuality and even "finds it disgusting" when the GLBQTT community is denied equal rights.

~I've tried hard to mend my wicked ways

[falling*out]

yay, Utah! now at 22%

[headgear]

A lot of it comes down to being honest with those around you.

Right on.

And F*O - that 22% is up 10% and almost double what it was 15 years ago.. which is better than a kick in the nuts :]. It might take time, but it's happening.

[Stephanie]

Hmm, kinda wish I lived in Massachussetts.

I honestly think same-sex marriage will become legal nationwide. It's just going to take time (hopefully less than ten years).

[zipthistle]

Hmm, kinda wish I lived in Massachussetts.

I honestly think same-sex marriage will become legal nationwide. It's just going to take time (hopefully less than ten years).

Join us. I hope you are right about it becoming nationwide, but I am beyond grateful to be living somewhere that is beyond supportive of gay marriage.

[mele]

I'd still like to kick 78% of Utah in the nuts...

[browneyes]

Hmm, kinda wish I lived in Massachussetts.

I want to get married in MA. Already got the place(s) picked out. Rowes Wharf (where I used to go to think when I lived in Boston) or Montgomery Park (across the street from my old residence). You actually have to live in a building that touches Montgomery Park to use it but I keep dreaming it'll happen.
http://montgomerypark.org/

[snowshoe]

i'd rather get married in Iowa, by Leslie Hall.
http://www.lesliehall.com/wedding/main.html

[lookingout86]

i'd rather get married in Iowa, by Leslie Hall.
http://www.lesliehall.com/wedding/main.html

"You will enjoy the live music from Back to Back Palz and Leslie's pet chickens frolicking you (chickens optional). You then will enjoy a firepit and learn local song and dance."

Hahaha what??? I pick THAT one.

[falling*out]

I'd still like to kick 78% of Utah in the nuts...

LOL
oh, I'm sure you would, mele
(I forgot to reply to this long ago.)

Swim for Equality http://www.ebar.com/columns/column.php?sec=sports
seems like some Olympians are doing it

[lookingout86]

Swim for Equality http://www.ebar.com/columns/column.php?sec=sports
seems like some Olympians are doing it

That's really cool! I should make my sister go check it out for me.

[browneyes]

FCKH8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohybtaEsOCM

[Renegade_Pilgrim]

FCKH8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohybtaEsOCM

That is DAMN funny!

[lookingout86]

FCKH8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohybtaEsOCM

I love it!

"I'm gay!"
"I'm straight!..........not really."

And the swearing kids are hilarious!

[browneyes]

I totally bought a shirt.

[pisquita]

That was awesome!

[falling*out]

FCKH8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohybtaEsOCM

I love it!

"I'm gay!"
"I'm straight!..........not really."

And the swearing kids are hilarious!

*like*
that was my fav part

[kadtoo19]

FCKH8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohybtaEsOCM

That was awesome!

[Stephanie]

Illinois passed a civil union bill today. The House voted 62 to 51 and the Senate 32 to 24.

[lookingout86]

Illinois passed a civil union bill today. The House voted 62 to 51 and the Senate 32 to 24.

Woohoooooo! My home state makes me proud.

[starkicker]

That's good news. A step in the right direction.

~the world will turn if you're ready or not